Friday 7 October 2011

Isn't global warming due to technology, a natural phenomenon?

Technology is a product of an intelligent mind, a consequence of evolution, and thus a natural phenomenon. If we are foolish enough to poison our atmosphere, isn't it natural? Are we not following the example set by early bacteria, which changed the Earth's atmosphere by producing oxygen and making it suitable for cellular life forms? Aren't we simply creating a world in which, if we do not survive, another dominant species will arise?

Your thoughts appreciated.
Isn't global warming due to technology, a natural phenomenon?
I think that you can either define everything as natural, in which case the word has no meaning, or you can draw the line at %26quot;created by an intelligent mind%26quot; and not lose a useful word.



The core problem here is that the words natural and unnatural have become emotionally loaded words thanks to the media and marketing campaigns, there's a common belief that natural equals good and desirable while unnatural is bad and undesirable. This simply isn't the case, natural medicines aren't subject to the same regulations as man-made ones and often have far worse side effects, natural child birth has far greater infant mortality rates than controlled birth in hospitals, infectious diseases are natural things, rape is quite common in the natural world, forest fires are natural and so on. So even if climate change was not the product of humans, it wouldn't be a desirable thing for humans just because it's natural!



If you're looking at things from the point of view of an objective observer then I agree that we're not so different from early bacteria which introduced oxygen to the atmosphere. Oxygen is highly reactive therefore toxic to ancient life, it most likely wiped out the majority of life on the planet!
Isn't global warming due to technology, a natural phenomenon?
Evolution is the discovery of technology (DNA, protiens, organisms) by chaotic natural processes, humans have just removed some of the chaos and are actively seeking it out instead of randomly discovering it.



This is a game changer and will affect all life on the planet, including our own.

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Once we unlock the secrets of DNA we'll take control of our own destiny, the end of the human race and the beginning of something else. Something better perhaps? We won't be able to control it any more than our single celled ancestors could control us!

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no it is not ,It abut increasing the number of population's i think so
What warming exists is a natural phenomenon and it actually saved us from the ice ages. Al Gore is mentally ill and every person who believes him is like the people on this site who talk about horoscopes as though they were real.



Gore needs to undergo a mental evaluation, in my opinion, to see if he's competent enough to stand trial for his mass deceptions and lies.
The earth has been global warming ever since the ice age
The main cause of global warming is the success of the human population. We keep increasing in numbers, using up more oxygen and cutting down the trees which would otherwise restore oxygen. That means the balance in the atmosphere between oxygen and carbon gases is upset, generally warming the atmosphere and causing various problems like climate change and rising sea levels.



Fiddling around with the amounts of fossil fuels we use might help, but it's a little like bailing out a sinking ship with a teaspoon. We need more radical solutions. A cull is out of the question. OK, we might kill off a few million with wars in the Middle East, but we'd need to get rid of a couple of billion to make any real impact. The alternative would be to plant more trees - and I'm talking huge scale. The Sahara Desert used to be rain forest before our ancestors cut down the trees to grow grain. We have the technology to change it back, but it would involve international cooperation on a huge scale.



If we do nothing, large populated areas of the world will become flooded and human habitation will become impossible. This will lead to large scale war as displaced people try to move in on the land that other people want for themselves. That might succeed in getting rid of a lot of us. The high concentration of carbon gases provide an ideal environment for vegetation and eventually nature will rebalance itself. With luck sufficient humans would survive to learn from the mistakes of their ancestors. Otherwise, cats will take over.
Life and intelligence are an accidental product of change just as new diseases are a product of new health regulations i.e. cure one disease and another will take its place. This planet we live on has changed many times during its existence. Some changes were brought about by outside influences such as asteroids hitting the earth and others were brought about by its own internal upsets such as volcanoes. This country we live in has suffered ice ages and heatwaves on a more or less regular basis for millions of years - long before man came onto the scene. Maybe man has contributed to so called 'global warming' I don't know for sure but what I do know is that it has happened before we came on the scene and it will happen long after we leave.
Go to:- climate-skeptic.com



Run the page halfway down and watch the video Catastrophe denied!

Very interesting! Shows the whole global warming bandwagon IS FALSE
Global warming actually does not have sufficient data to back it. True, the worlds climate has climbed a few degrees in the past decades, but this is a natural cycle. Recently, however, there has been evidence that the world is actually getting colder and going into a mini ice age.
This is true. But this is just one way to simplify the issue, by rationalising it, by being too objective in the view of cases that when looked at little subjectively might seem a great deal different. You have thought thoroughly things and reached the undeniable truth about nature, but what about the truth about human being. This true that organisms and the nature of all things, being in reality one, being in a relation as the producer and the produce, being interlinked as the causes and the affect, do effect, alter and modify each other, with nature each time winning, dominant in each instance, each time using its produce, bacteria and the lot for its own biological purposes, using all organisms as agents for its much need change; the fact is that the all change in the world is natural and all things its hapless instruments, the tool of nature to interment and forge its way forward to some unforeseeable ends.



This is true that in the past bacteria change the atmosphere, and the oceans, in their composition quite radically. However, we see, as to the best of our knowledge, nothing has been like human organism: active, intelligent, critical, but aggressive and radical. We have changed the natural environment the way it has never been changed before, the bacterial output of various gases into the atmosphere, of deposition of sediments at ocean floors, the activity of micro plankton, their absorption of carbon dioxide and release of oxygen, all are, and have been, simplistic natural phenomena. However massive in scale they are or have been they are no match for the intrusiveness of human intervention and design.



The problem with human intervention therefore is not of its scale, its global effect, its massiveness, but of the intricacy and complexity of the human involvedness. The question is not if human beings should by their activities interact and therefore change the natural global environment, but how, as how much, in what way and to what extent, should this involvedness be, and how complicated. As if the environment is changed far too much to remain favourable, and supportive, of human life, and even of life in general, then this obviously will be going too far, causing problems far too big and complex for our human ability or means to come to terms with.



P.S. If 鈥榯echnology is a product of an intelligent mind鈥? then are not the concerns and considerations about our survival in the consequences? If it is natural 鈥榯o poison鈥? to pollute, as to modify and change the natural environment, then is it not also natural thinking of harms that might come to human life by going over the top, then is it not natural also to seek ways of countering the harmful effects.
global warming has been occurring since the dawning of time... all the co2 from technology is accelerating things, but even if we all went back to living like cave men there would still be global warming...
All creatures that have ever lived on this earth...99.9% of them are dead now. All creatures that live here today will become extinct someday and that's a fact.



There have been five mass extinctions in the earths time that we're aware of and it seems clear to me that we're helping to bring along the next one. This is a part of nature and it is inevitable.
Yes, absolutely, someone agrees with me. My god, you seem to be one of the ONLY people that understands that Humans are natural, therefore anything we create is natural. Man does not MAKE stuff. He cannot create SOMETHING from NOTHING, he only changes and alters the world he lives in, just like we change and alter the very air we breathe. If we do not define our process of respiration as man-made, then we cannot define creating a car as being man-made.



I agree with that theory, you're example... idc. I'm just glad someone is on the same thought process as me.



However, we're not changing our atmosphere that drastically. Also, you agree with my thought of how human are affecting the Earth not for the Earth, but for ourselves. The fact is that if we are %26quot;un-fit%26quot; to live on this world we we, and the Earth will, essentially %26quot;get rid%26quot; of us and we will, or won't be, replaced.
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